INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI: 2020 Legislative Preview


WHAT ARE THE BIGGEST ISSUES
FACING HAWAIʻI’S STATE LAWMAKERS IN 2020? WILL THEY
RAISE THE MINIMUM WAGE? WILL THE
LACK OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING BE ON THE AGENDA? HOW WILL THEY
ADDRESS THE ISSUES OF CLIMATE CHANGE AND ITS EFFECT ON OUR
SHORELINES AND LIFESTYLE? WILL
THEY CONSIDER LEGALIZING RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA? JOIN
THE CONVERSATION AS LEGISLATIVE LEADERS AND COMMUNITY WATCHDOGS
PREVIEW THE 2020 SESSION. TONIGHTʻS LIVE BROADCAST AND LIVE STREAM OF INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI START NOW. [INTRO MUSIC] ALOHA AND WELCOME TO INSIGHTS
ON PBS HAWAIʻI. I’M DARYL HUFF. LEGISLATURE OPENED 2020
SESSION WEDNESDAY. BILLS INTRO THROW DEUCED LAST
YEAR. DID NOT PASS. PROPOSALS TO
RAISE MINIMUM WAGE. THOUSANDS NEW BILLS
INTRODUCED AS WELL. WHAT HAPPENS TO THE CAP
SCRUTINIZED BY THE MUSIC MEDIA AND YOU. TWO VETERAN LAWMAKERS, LONG
TIME POLITICAL REPORTER AND LEADER OF GOVERNMENT WATCHDOG
GROUP. LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR POUR TASE
PAGES. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, BECAUSE OF
SOME TECHNICAL PROBLEMS I CAN’T SHOW YOU USUAL SCREEN
WITH ALL NUMBERS ON IT. IF YOU WANT GET A PENCIL. OAHU, YOU NEED TO CALL
462-5000. ON OAHU. NEIGHBOR ISLANDS, CAN CALL
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INSIGHTS. FOLKS, WE ARE STILL OUT THERE. GOT VOLUNTEERS READY TO TAKE
IN YOUR CALLS. EVEN IF WE DON’T HAVE THE
GRAPHICS. BECAUSE OF SLIGHT TECHNICAL
PROBLEMS TODAY. LET ME MOVE ON. INTRODUCERS GUESTS. NOW, TO OUR GUESTS. SENATOR KALANI ENGLISH HAS
REPRESENTED THE CANOE DISTRICT THAT INCLUDES PARTS
OF EAST MAUI, MOLOKAI AND LANAI FOR TWENTY YEARS. HE IS
THE DEMOCRATIC MAJORITY LEADER IN THE SENATE. REPRESENTATIVE GENE WARD
HOLDS THE SEAT THAT REPRESENTS HAWAIʻI KAI AND
KALAMA VALLEY IN EAST OAHU. HE
IS THE REPUBLICAN MINORITY LEADER IN THE STATE HOUSE
WHERE HE HAS SERVED SINCE 2006. HE ALSO HELD OFFICE FROM
1990 TO 1998. CHAD BLAIR IS THE POLITICS AND
OPINION EDITOR FOR HONOLULU CIVIL BEAT. HIS JOURNALISM
FOCUSES ON HOW POLITICAL DECISIONS IMPACT PEOPLE AND
COMMUNITIES. SANDY MA IS THE EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF COMMON CAUSE HAWAIʻI, A NONPARTISAN
GRASSROOTS ORGANIZATION DEDICATED TO UPHOLDING THE
CORE VALUES OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY. SANDY IS AN
ATTORNEY WITH A WIDE RANGE OF NONPROFIT, CORPORATE AND
GOVERNMENT EXPERIENCE. START IS INTERENGLISH. TELL US, WHAT WILL THE
PRIORITIES BE FOR THE STATE THIS YEAR? ONE OR TWO OR THREE YOU COULD
POINT OUT?>>ACTUALLY, SENATE OPERATES
DIFFERENT THAN IN THE PAST. FRAMEWORK WE WORK OFF OF. BASED ON THE 17UN SUSTAINABLE
DEVELOPMENT GOAL. WE ASK EACH SENATOR AND
COMMITTEE TO TAKE THESE INTO CONSIDERATION. AS THEY MOVE THEIR BILLS
FORWARD. NOT NECESSARILY SET OF BILLS
LIKE IN THE PAST. MORE SO, POLICY DOCUMENTS,
POLICY GUIDANCE DOCUMENT. PUBLISH THIS SESSION, ONE
VERY, VERY SOON. NEXT DAY OR TWO. SOME GRAPHIC DESIGNING
GLITCHES. THAT WAS THE ISSUE.>>Daryl: SO DID WE. IN TERMS OF THE ISSUES, PEOPLE
WANT TO MOW ABOUT, DON’T REALLY WANT TO KNOW ABOUT
STRUCTURE OR FUNCTION. VERY GOOD QUESTION. STRUCTURE, 17 GOALS, ARE WAY
OF SPEAKING TO OTHER PEOPLE IN DIFFERENT PARTS OF THE WORLD. IT’S BEEN LOCALIZED. THESE ARE THE ISSUES THAT WE
DEAL WITH. FOR INSTANCE, BEGIN WITH
HOMELESSNESS, DEALING WITH SHELTER FOR ALL. ONE OF THE GOALS. HOW DO WE DEAL WITH MULTIFACET
APPROACH. ISN’T JUST LET’S GO BUILD
HOUSES AND PUT PEOPLE IN IT. COULD BE AS SIMPLE AS THIS. WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE
SOCIAL PROBLEMS. DEAL WITH THE INEQUALITIES OF
INCOME. DEAL WITH HOW DO WE DEAL WITH
THE PAY, EQUAL PAY, BETTER PAY FOR PEOPLE? ALSO, BE FAIR TO THE BUSINESS
OWNERS. AND THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO
PAY THE SALARIES. SO COMPLEX QUESTIONS. LOCALIZED. WE’RE ALSO DEALING WITH
CLIMATE CHANGE. BIGGEST ISSUE BEFORE US RIGHT
NOW. MOST FAMOUS ONE THAT WE’RE
DEALING WITH RIGHT NOW, HAUULA ROADS FALLS INTO THE
OCEAN. FOR 2 YEARS, ROADS ON MOLOKAI
BEEN IN THE OCEAN EAST SIDE, RIGHT AS YOU GET COMPLETELY
CUT OFF. TEN FEET LEFT OF A ROAD. REST OF IT IS FALLING FOR THE
LAST 2 YEARS. I LIVE IN HANA, ROAD
CONSTANTLY FALLS INTO THE OCEAN. LAHAINA, BIG ISLAND, SO YOU
KNOW, IF YOU ADD THIS UP, WE’RE DEALING WITH IMMINENT
CRISIS RIGHT NOW. SO WE’LL DEAL WITH THAT.>>Daryl: LET ME, GO AHEAD.>>I WANTED TO SAY ADD THAT,
COMMON CAUSE HAWAIʻI APPRECIATES SENATOR ENGLISH
USE OF THE SUSTAINABLE DEVELOPMENT GOALS
PARTICULARLY DEVELOPMENT GOAL NUMBER 16. WHICH ENCOURAGES GOOD POLICY
AND GOVERNANCE BY HOLDING INSTITUTIONS AT ALL LEVELS
ACCOUNTABLE. COMMON CAUSE PHYSICALLY OUR
MOTTO, IS HOLDING POWER ACCOUNTABLE AND WE THINK WE
CAN REALLY USE NUMBER 16 OF THE SDG TO REALLY EMPHASIZE
ALL INSTITUTIONS, ELECTED OFFICIALS CAN BE HELD
ACCOUNTABLE.>>Daryl: LET ME ASK YOU, WHAT
DOES COMMON CAUSE SEE AS THE PROBLEM THAT NEEDS TO BE
FIXED? ONE OF OUR CORE ISSUES IS
ETHICS. IMPROVING ETHICS IN HAWAIʻI. STAR ADVERTISER HAD RECENTLY
CONDUCTED A POLL SAYING THAT PEOPLE OF HAWAIʻI REGISTERED
VOTERS SPECIFICALLY HAD FELT THAT THERE WAS A LACK OF
ETHICS IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY AMONGST OUR ELECTED
OFFICIALS. WE THINK THAT SOME ETHICS
REFORM COULD BE INSTITUTED IN THIS UPCOMING 2020
LEGISLATIVE SESSION. FOR EXAMPLE, PARTICULAR BILL
THAT WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE PASSED WHICH IS, I THINK THIS
WAS ALSO HIGHLIGHTED IN CHAD BLAIR’S HONOLULU CIVIL BEAT
RECENTLY. WHY ARE GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEES
WHO HAVE BEEN FOUND GUILTY OF A CRIME RELATED TO THEIR
EMPLOYMENT STILL ALLOWED TO KEEP THEIR PENSIONS. SO WE THINK THAT IS A REFORM
THAT COULD BE PASSED IN MANY UPCOMING SESSION. IT’S BEEN REPEATEDLY
INTRODUCED IN THE LAST SEVERAL LEGISLATIVE
SESSIONS. HAS NEVER BEEN PASSED. WE THINK THERE IS SOME
APPETITE FOR REFORM IN THE UPCOMING SESSION. LINKED BACK TO SENATOR
ENGLISH.>>Daryl: GIVE ME MEAT AND
POTATOES. WHAT DO YOU THINK THE BIG
DEBATES ARE GOING TO BE?>>THANK YOU FOR SAYING IT’S
MY CIVIL BEAT. I WISH IT WAS. IT’S YOUR CIVIL BEAT. EVERYBODY OUT THERE. WE ARE DONOR SUPPORTED, BUT
THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING US. I WOULD LOVE TO TALK ABOUT
CLIMATE CHANGE. BUT MEAT POTATOES. WHAT YOU WANT. MINIMUM WAGE IS THE ONE ISSUE
AT THAT MADE IT RIGHT NEAR THE END. DIED INN CONFERENCE COMMITTEE
VERY LAST DAY. JOHANSEN, AND BRIAN
TANIGUCHI, LABOR CHAIR, COULDN’T COME UP WITH
AGREEMENTS. ALL SORTS OF PROBLEMS WITH
THAT BILL. I HEAR A LOT OF MOVEMENT, MAY
BE MOVING TOWARDS A FIGURE THEY CAN AGREE ON. I DON’T KNOW IT’S $17 AN HOUR. I DON’T KNOW WHAT $15 AN HOUR. RIGHT NOW, IT’S $10.10 AN
HOUR. JUST UNACCEPTABLE FOR MANY
PEOPLE. AT THE SAME TIME, TO YOUR
POINT EARLIER, BUSINESSES ARE CONCERNED. PART OF THE REASON THAT THE
BILL DIED LAST SESSION IS COULDN’T AGREE ON HOW TO DEAL
WITH PEOPLE, TIP CREDIT, HOW TO DEAL WITH WHETHER YOU
SHOULD HAVE A TAX CREDIT, HAVE TO PROVIDE INSURANCE TO YOUR
EMPLOYEES. HEALTH CARE ACT. PROPOSAL TO HAVE STATE OR
STATE GOVERNMENT OFFICIALS GETTING $17 AN HOUR BUT MAYBE
$15 AN HOUR FOR OTHERS. WAS THAT FAIR? THOSE THINGS BROKE THAT DOWN. MY GUESS IS THEY WON’T PULL IT
OUT OF THE CONFERENCE COMMITTEE. PROBABLY START WITH A NEW
BILL.>>Daryl: GENE WARD,
REPRESENTATIVE MINORITY LEADER. WHAT DO YOU SEE THE BIG
DEBATES.>>IN THE WEEDS ALREADY. GOT TO REALLY FOCUS ON
ECONOMY. RIGHT NOW, WE HAVE A STATE
WITH A ECONOMY THAT DOESN’T FIT THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE. WE NEED TO GROW THE ECONOMY. I KNOW SOMETHING THAT DOESN’T
GET FOCUSED ON. BUT P WE DON’T GROW THE
ECONOMY, 70% OF THE PEOPLE KIND OF MAKING IT.
30% OF THE PEOPLE ARE FAILING. GOT DOUBLE JOBS. GOT PROBLEMS. MIGRATING TO THE MAINLAND.>>Daryl: TRY TO SAY THEY’RE
FAILING OR DON’T HAVE A CHANCE?>>USING TRANSFER PAYMENTS. NOT INDEPENDENT ON THEIR OWN
ABILITY TO SURVIVE. THEIR CONFIDENCE LEVEL AND
DRUG USE, SYNDROME.>>DRUG USE ACROSS ALL
SECTORS.>>DO YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT
HOMELESS? ACROSS ALL SECTORS.>>THOSE WHO ARE BECOMING
UNABLE TO FUNCTION AND HAVE A LIFE OF THEIR OWN.>>Daryl: LET ME GIVE YOU A
CHANCE. TO BE MORE SPECIFIC. WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT GROWING
ECONOMY.>>SPECIFICALLY. WE HAVE SIX STRATEGIC
ADVANTAGES OF WE WE’RE ONLY TAKING CARE OF TWO. DEFENSE SPENDING WITHIN THE
MILITARY. WE HAVE TOURISM. WE HAVE THE POTENTIAL TO BE
HOLLYWOOD OF THE PACIFIC. WE COULD BE DOING MOVIES UP TO
A BILLION DOLLARS. JUST TALKED TO THE FILM OFFICE
THE OTHER DAY. WE DON’T DO IT BECAUSE THE TAX
CREDIT, WE HAVEN’T BEEN ABLE TO DO. WE COULD BE THE, BECAUSE OF
EAST-WEST CENTER, KALANI AND HAVE AN AFFILIATION WITH,
COULD BE THE GENEVA OF PACIFIC. EAST WEST CENTER,
ASIA-PACIFIC, MODIFIED. SPORTS CENTER OF THE PACIFIC. ARENAS FOR BOTH UFC, GOLF, ALL
THE THINGS WE’RE DOING. COULD MULTIPLY DOING THAT. LASTLY, WE COULD BE THE SPACE
CENTER OF WHICH WE HAVE ALREADY THE HEAD OF
ASTRONOMY. BEST IN THE WORLD. POINT IS WE’RE NOT THINKING
ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE’RE GET BOGGED DOWN TO THE
WEEDS. MACROECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT,
ECONOMY DOESN’T FIT THE NEEDS OF THE PEOPLE. WE HAVEN’T DONE THAT HAVEN’T
DIVERSIFIED. TALKED ABOUT IT.
20 YEARS AGO, PROBABLY ISSUES TONIGHT WE’RE STILL TALKING
ABOUT. A LACK OF CONFIDENCE THAT WE
IN THE GOVERNMENT AND OTHER PLACES HAVE THE ABILITY TO
SOLVE PEOPLE’S PROBLEMS.>>LACK OF CONFIDENCE.>>Daryl: ANSWER THAT
QUESTION. LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN
GOVERNMENT. WHAT IS IT THAT NEEDS TO
CHANGE OR HAPPEN TO SIGNAL TO PEOPLE THAT THEY CAN TRUST THE
LEGISLATURE THAT THEY HAVE, THEY CAN TRUST THE LEADERSHIP
THAT THEY HAVE? DEAL WITH THEIR PROBLEMS?>>I DON’T KNOW IF EVER GET TO
THAT PARTICULAR GOAL. HAVING TRUST. I MEAN, WE LIVE IN A SOCIETY
WHERE IT’S BASED ON MISTRUST. EVERYTHING IS BASED ON
NONBELIEF. SOCIAL MEDIA CONDITIONED US
TO THAT. MEDIA ITSELF SAYS WE DON’T
TRUST. SO THE GOAL OF CREATING TRUST,
I THINK, THE GOAL IS TO LOOK AT THE OUTCOME. LOOK AT JUDGE BY THE OUTCOMES. WHAT HAS BEEN DONE. WE DON’T TRUST MEDIA BECAUSE
WE’RE TOLD NOT TO TRUST MEDIA. MEDIA DOESN’T TRUST US.>>Daryl: OUTCOMES THAT
HAVEN’T BEEN REPORTED?>>NO. THAT’S WHAT I MEAN. OUTCOMES WE’RE DOING, WORKING
ON, HOW IT SHOULD BE JUDGED.>>Daryl: WE HAVE A 27%
APPROVAL RATING. 51% DISAPPROVAL OF THE JOB
WE’RE DOING. THINK ALL ABOUT OURSELVES AN
DON’T CARE ABOUT THE PEOPLE. STAR ADVERTISER POLL.>>SIMPLY A POLL. THE POINT IS THAT —
>>DOESN’T MAKE US LOOK VERY GOOD?>>NO. WE CAN DO OTHER POLLS THAT
MAKE US LOOK GOOD. DEPENDS ON WHO YOU POLL.>>Daryl: I WANT TO GIVE SANDY
A CHANCE.>>I THINK, I’M SORRY. I LOST MY TRAIN OF THOUGHT. TRUST IN GOVERNMENT. YES. WE HAVE TO RESTORE TRUST IN
GOVERNMENT. WE HAVE TO HOLD
POWER ACCOUNTABLE. THROUGH PASSING SOME
SUBSTANTIVE ETHICS REFORMS. GO BACK TO THAT, COMMON CAUSE
GOES BACK TO PASSING SOME SUBSTANTIVE VOTER ETHICS
REFORMS.>>LET ME CLARIFY. IDEA IS THAT WE DO WANT TRUST. WE DO WANT PEOPLE TO TRUST US. IT’S ABOUT A NEW WAY OF
REACHING OUT AND NEW WAY OF HAVING THE DISCUSSION WITH
THE GENERAL POPULATION. CREATING INNOVATIVE
PARTNERSHIPS AND PUTING IT OUT AND BASICALLY, BACK TO THE
MADISONIAN, JEFFERSON DEBATE OF EARLY FOUNDING OF THE
REPUBLIC. ARE WE DEMOCRACY OR REPUBLIC. DIRECT DEMOCRACY. WE OPERATE IN A REPUBLIC. REPRESENT A CONSTITUENCY. PEOPLE ARE ASKING FOR I WANT
DIRECT DEMOCRACY. TAKE A POLL.>>Daryl: LET ME ASK THIS
QUESTION. ANT IT BECAUSE THE PERCEPTION
PEOPLE HAVE IS THAT WE HAVE THESE CHRONIC PROBLEMS THAT
HAVEN’T BEEN SOLVED BY OUR GOVERNMENT LEADERS. THAT’S WHERE THE HEART OF THE
DISCONTENT. ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WHAT DO YOU THINK?>>WELL, I WOULD GET BACK
FIRST TO YOUR POINT ABOUT TRUST. I THINK TWO ISSUES WE JUST
FINISHED A DECADE. JUST FINISHED A YEAR. TWO DOMINANT ISSUE WITH THE
KEALOHA CORRUPTION TRIAL. SOMETHING THAT IS CONTINUING
TO THIS PRESENT DAY. NOT JUST HONOLULU POLICE
DEPARTMENT OR THE POLICE COMMISSION. EXTENDS INTO THE PROSECUTOR’S
OFFICE. EXTENDS INTO CORPORATION
COUNSEL. WHO KNOWS, HOW MUCH FURTHER. THAT IS CONSIDERING RIGHT
NOW, SEE POSSIBLY MORE SITUATIONS COMING ALONG. THE OTHER ONE IS RAIL. EVEN THOUGH WE’RE HEARING NOW
IT MAY ACTUALLY START IN OCTOBER, I’M NOT SURE WHO IS
GOING TO WANT TO TAKE THE TRAIN FROM EAST KAPOLEI TO
ALOHA STADIUM. I’LL TRY TO STAY HOMEFUL. MAKAKILO. WON’T MAKE IT ALL THE WAY TO
PBS OR HAWAIʻI NEWS NOW. BUT CLOSE. GETTING CLOSE. INTO YOUR AREA. THAT IS WHERE THE LEVEL OF
TRUST IS REALLY SOMETHING, FACT THAT THAT COST LEVEL HAS
DOUBLED. WE’RE STILL LOOKING AT NOT
FINISHING THIS THING UNTIL WHAT IS THE LATEST
PROJECTION?>>Daryl: 2025.>>I THINK THAT’S A SERIOUS
CONCERN. WHAT HAS THE GOVERNMENT DONE.>>Daryl: WHAT’S IT DONE FOR ME
LATELY?>>TRY DOING THINGS. SANDY WAS WORKING ON, CREDIT
HOUSE AND SENATE PASSING ALL MAIL VOTING. WE’RE GOING TO START THAT THIS
YEAR. I THINK YOU WILL SEE HOPEFULLY
MORE PEOPLE EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS.>>TAKE A LOOK AT THAT. NCSL, STATISTICS ON THIS. LOOKED AT STATES THAT PASSED
IT, USUALLY 3 OR 4 ELECTION CYCLES GOES DOWN. THEN WAY UP. SAYING YEAH, OKAY.>>EXACT OPPOSITE. GOES UP IN THE BEGINNING, GET
USED TO IT, GOES DOWN AGAIN. EXACT OPPOSITE. HOPEFULLY, WE’RE GOING TO
HAVE PICK UP.>>WE JUST HAD THAT REPORT
FROM HUD. THANK GOD, HAWAIʻI NOW IS NO
LONGER NUMBER 1 PER CAPITA FOR HOMELESSNESS. DOWN TO NUMBER 2. NOTHING TO BE PROUD OF. HAS BEEN SOME PROGRESS
STATEWIDE. I BELIEVE THE NUMBERS OF
HOMELESS STATEWIDE ARE AROUND 6400 PEOPLE RIGHT NOW. DROPPED ABOUT 19%. OVER THE LAST 3 YEARS. STILL PROBLEMS WITH VETERANS. UNSHELTERED HOMELESS. OAHU HAS OWN SET OF STRUGGLES. SONDLAND INDICATION, STATE
COUNTY AND GOVERNMENT ISSUE. STARTING TO SEE SOME
PROGRESS.>>Daryl: I WANT TO
ACKNOWLEDGE VIEWERS STARTING TO CALL IN WITH QUESTIONS. VIEWER CALLS AND SAYS,
NATIONAL STATISTICS JUST STATED HAWAIʻI MOVED TO
NUMBER 2 BEHIND NEW YORK FOR HOMELESSNESS PER CAPITA. ARE WE REALLY MAKING A
POSITIVE DIFFERENCE. STILL SEES AS MANY AROUND
TOWN.>>THAT IS TECHNICALLY
CORRECT. BUT ACTUALLY, WASHINGTON,
D.C. HAS THE TOP. THEN IT’S NEW YORK, THEN IT’S
HAWAIʻI. IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN THE TWO, MARGIN DIFFERENCE IS REALLY NOMINAL. YEAH, WE’RE NOT IN THE TOP
ONE, BUT WE’RE THIRD. BUT I TELL, WENT TO THE
HOMELESS TASK FORCE, HOMELESS SUMMIT, I ASK PEOPLE, ALL THE
THINGS. 19%, WE DID THIS. PUT MORE PEOPLE IN THE
HOUSING. AND ALL OF THESE OTHER THINGS. BUT THIS TERMS OF WHAT THE
PERCEPTION IS, PERCEPTION IS IN THE BUSINESS WE’RE IN. PERCEPTION IS WE HAVE NOT DONE
ANYTHING OTHER THAN KICK THE CAN DOWN THE ROAD. MAKE HOMELESSNESS SOUND GOOD. BUT WHEN THEY SEE IT, PEOPLE
DON’T BELIEVE IT. SO IN EFFECT, WHAT WE’VE GOT
IS A HOMELESS CRISIS OF WHICH I THE ONLY HOPE IN FACT IN THAT
WHOLE SEMINAR WAS JOSH GREEN. THE PERMANENT TEMPORARY
HOUSING IN ORDER TO GET PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS, HOUSING
FIRST IS THE MANTRA. GOT TO HAVE PEOPLE
STABILIZED, BE ABLE TO SLEEP IN A PLACE, GET SOME KIND OF
REGULARITY IN SYSTEM. GO GET PSYCHOLOGICAL OR
SOCIAL OR JOB TRAINING. GOT TO STABILIZE WHERE THEY
SLEEP. JOSH GREEN HAS GOT THAT
SOLUTION. 1/10 OF THE COST, BRICK AND
MORTAR. SOLUTION.>>Daryl: MAJORITY LEAD UNDER
THE STATE SENATE, HOMELESSNESS, OHANA ZONES WAS
A PIECE OF A MULTIPIECE EFFORT. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT REPORTS
THAT WE’RE DOING BETTER? WHAT IS YOUR PERCEPTION.>>I DO. YES, WE’RE DOING BETTER. IT’S A PROCESS. THAT’S THE THING. WE CAN’T, HAVE IT IMMEDIATE. WON’T GO AWAY. CREATIVE THINGS THAT HAVEN’T
BEEN TRIED BEFORE. I’M SEEING THE DELTA. SEEING THE CHANGE. IT IS HAPPENING. AS LONG AS WE BARRING
SOMETHING LIKE ANOTHER STATE SENDING EVERYBODY HERE, WE’RE
ON THE RIGHT PATH. STILL A LONG WAY TO GO.>>Daryl: ONE OF THE CHRONIC
ISSUES IN HOMELESSNESS AND I KNOW OUR STATION HAS DONE
QUITE A BIT. MENTALLY ILL ON THE STREETS. LACK OF BEDS FOR PEOPLE WITH
MENTAL ILLNESS, LACK OF ABILITY TO INVOLUNTARILY
TREAT. DO YOU THINK THAT THAT PROBLEM
HAS BEEN SOLVED? NO. DEFINITELY NO. SCOTT MURASHIGE, GOVERNOR’S
POINTS PERSON ON HOMELESSNESS, SAID AS MUCH. FOCUS REALLY NEEDS TO BE ON
NOT ONLY MENTAL HEALTH BUT SUBSTANCE ABUSE. INNOVATIVE PILOT PROGRAM FOR
HONU. ESSENTIALLY OUTREACH
PROGRAM. TO GO AND CONFRONT SOMEONE
CHRONIC AND SAY WE CAN GIVE YOU TICKET OR DIRECT YOU TO
SERVICES MOBILE CENTER TO HELP YOU. DEFINITELY AN AREA WE NEED TO
SEE MORE PROGRESS. HAWAIʻI KAI HOMELESS TASK
FORCE. GETTING SO BAD WHEN THE SWEEPS
WOULD COME OUT CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU, CITY OF
HONOLULU, THEY WOULD COME TO HAWAIʻI KAI AND VARIOUS
ENVIRONS THERE.>>THE ISSUE SEEMS TO BE THAT,
WELL, WE’VE GOT PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS. WE’RE GOING TO TAKE THEM AND
WE’RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO, EVEN IF THEY’RE LYING IN
PUBLIC, IN THEIR FECES, BECAUSE OF THE ACLU AND THE
LAWS, YOU CANNOT DO ANY TREATMENT TO THOSE PEOPLE
UNLESS THEY GIVE IT. 99% OF THE PEOPLE THAT WE ASK
TO GIVE HELP IN HAWAIʻI KAI, SAY THANK YOU, JUST DON’T
BOTHER ME. HOMELESS GENERALLY SPEAKING,
HOMELESS PEOPLE WANT TO BE LEFT ALONE AND A LOT OF PEOPLE
DON’T EVEN KNOW THEY’RE MENTALLY ILL.>>THESE PEOPLE CANNOT HELP
THEMSELVES. ABRAHAM LINCOLN SAYS IF THEY
CAN’T DO IT, GOVERNMENTS THAT TO DO IT. THOSE WOULD CAN’T HELP
THEMSELVES, NEED TO BE HELPED. I GRIEVE WHEN I SEE THOSE
HOMELESS PEOPLE WALLOWING.>>Daryl: ON THAT ISSUE. REPRESENTATIVE WARD,
MENTIONED SPECIFICALLY THE MINI HOUSES AND SO ON.
IS THERE A CONSENSUS THAT IS A GOOD IDEA? THAT’S THE OHANA ZONE PIECE OF
THE PIE.>>ONE PIECE OF IT. ABSOLUTELY. WE’RE DEALING WITH LAYERS. LAYERS OF DIFFERENT THINGS. WE HAVE TO, DEAL WITH ONE
LAYER. NEXT LAYER. NEXT LAYER.>>IT’S ONLY TEMPORARY.>>NOT PERMANENT. LET’S THINK ABOUT THIS. WE CREATED ZONING LAWS IN THE
COUNTIES MAKE IT VERY RESTRICTIVE TO DO ANY KIND OF
HOMES. FAMILIES IN HANA, MOLOKAI, I
WOULD BE VERY HAPPY WITH A VERY SIMPLE STRUCTURE ON MY
FAMILY LAND. COUNTY SAYS NO. I’M SORRY. YOU CAN’T DO THAT. THAT’S ILLEGAL. THEN THEY HAVE NO HOME.>>Daryl: YOU’RE BRINGING UP
THE ISSUE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I APPRECIATE THAT. BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD A PANEL
NOT TOO LONG AGO WHERE I ASKED ALL FOUR, WHAT IS THE MAIN
THING THAT PEOPLE SHOULD FOCUS ON IN TERMS OF CHANGE. THEY ALL SAID, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING. IT’S THE LYNCHPIN ISSUE
AROUND WHICH SO MANY OTHER THINGS REVOLVE. YOU PUT A LOT OF MONEY IN THE
HOUSING FUNDS. ARE YOU GUYS SATISFIED OR
ANYONE ON THIS PANEL SATISFIED WITH THE PROGRESS
WE MADE IN GETTING AFFORDABLE HOUSING?>>I WOULD SAY, AFFORDABLE
HOUSING SUBSET CAVEAT DHHL. DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOMES. 100 YEARS AGO, TO THIS MONTH.>>Daryl: LESS THAN 10%?>>GOT 203,000 ACRES. ONLY PUT 9,800 HOMESTEADERS
ON THE LAND. GOT 28,000 WAITING ON THE WAIT
LIST. BIGGEST HOMELESS POPULATION
ARE HAWAIIANS. IF YOU WANT TO SOLVE THE
HOMELESS CRISIS, YOU WANT TO GET HOUSING, GET ON WITH
DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOMELANDS.>>Daryl: ISN’T AFFORDABLE
HOUSING NECESSARY FOR ALL.>>OF COURSE. SANDY CHANG, SINGAPORE MODEL
STILL BEING WORKED THROUGH. STANLEY CHANG. EXPENSIVE ONE. YOU HAVE TO HAVE POLITICAL
WILL.>>I DON’T THINK WE’RE READY
FOR AUTHORITARIAN GOVERNMENT HERE.>>I SECOND THAT. COMMON CAUSE. WE WANT DEMOCRACY THAT WORKS
AND NOT AUTHORITARIAN REGIME.>>ARE WE SATISFIED WITH MORE
MONEY FOR THE RENTAL HOUSING TRUST FUND? AND THIS AND THAT? SO FORTH? INTERENGLISH IS RIGHT,
INCREMENTAL. MAKE PROGRESS. CAN’T DO IT OVERNIGHT. I HAVE SOME SYMPATHY WITH THE
MINORITY LEADERS. ANECDOTALLY, DRIVING HERE
TONIGHT, NIMITZ, RAIN POWERING DOWN. I SAW PEOPLE HUDDLING IN THEIR
TENTS RIGHT THERE IN THE RAIN. IT DOES GRAB YOUR HEART AND
OUR SOCIETY SHOULD NOT HAVE TO HAVE THAT WITH THE RICHNESS
THAT WE HAVE.>>Daryl: IT’S NOT GOING TO BE
DONE OVERNIGHT. I THINK THAT’S WE HAVE TO BE
PATIENT AND KEEP DIRECTING FUNDS IN THIS REGARD.>>I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE THIS
BACK TO THE FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEMS THAT WE DON’T HAVE
PEOPLE WHO VOTE IN OUR OWN BEST INTERESTS. SO IF WE LOOK BACK ON OUR
VOTING NUMBERS, WE HAVE 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE LIVING IN
THE STAY. ABOUT A MILLION PEOPLE ARE
PERMIT TO THE VOTE CITIZENS WHO CAN VOTE. WE HAVE ABOUT 700,000 PEOPLE
WHO ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE. BUT ONLY LAST ELECTION, ABOUT
350,000 PEOPLE VOTED. SO IF YOU THINK ABOUT THAT,
350,000 PEOPLE ARE DETERMINING THE TREKSES OF
THE STATE FOR 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE.>>Daryl: VERY INTERESTING
POINT. VOTE BY MAIL MIGHT CHANGE THAT
MIX SLIGHTLY. MIGHT NOT ADD A LOT OF PEOPLE. DO YOU THINK IF YOU HAD A
BETTER REPRESENTATION OF PEOPLE VOTING, THAT THERE
WOULD BE MORE PRESSURE AND WHAT ISSUE DO YOU THINK PEOPLE
WOULD WANT TO SEE ADDRESSED?>>COMMON CAUSE DOES NOT CARE
WHAT SHALL PEOPLE WANT TO SEE ADDRESSED. WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE. AND THEN WE CAN CHANGE THE
DIRECTION OF OUR GOVERNMENT. IF PEOPLE WANT TO VOTE, ON,
FOR EXAMPLE, CLIMATE CHANGE ISSUES, TO MAKE THAT THE
PRIORITY, THEN PLEASE VOTE. IF PEOPLE WANT TO CHANGE AS
REPRESENTATIVE WARD WOULD LIKE, PROBABLY, I DON’T KNOW,
I DON’T WANT TO SPEAK FOR REPRESENTATIVE WARD, FOR
ECONOMIC ISSUES TO PROMOTE BUSINESS INTERESTS, PLEASE GO
AHEAD AND DO SO. WE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE
BECAUSE THIS IS A DEMOCRATIC SOCIETY. WE WANT PEOPLE TO VOTE. 1.4 MILLION PEOPLE LIVING THE
STATE. 1 MILLION CAN VOTE. ONLY 350,000 VOTE.>>Daryl: I WANT TO STOP YOU. WE ALSO WANT PEOPLE TO
PARTICIPATE IN THE SHOW. TWO-PARTY SYSTEM. IF YOU’RE GOING TO HAVE A
DEMOCRACY. VOTING WITH ONLY ONE PARTY. THAT’S ONE PARTY VOICE.>>THAT’S THE CHOICE OF THE
PEOPLE.>>Daryl: VIEWERS PHONE
NUMBERS. ON OAHU, 462-5000. NEIGHBOR ISLANDS,
800-238-4847. EMAIL IS INSIGHTS ON PBS
HAWAII.ORG. LET ME JUST FINISH OFF ON THE
AFFORDABLE HOUSING PIECE. DO YOU SEE — COLBERT
MATSUMOTO WAS ON THIS SHOW AS PART OF EXECUTIVE ROUNDTABLE. HE THREW OUT THE IDEA OF IF YOU
REALLY WANT TO HAVE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUILT IN
THE STATE, ONE SIMPLE SOLUTION IS JUST TO PUT A
MORATORIUM ON BUILDING PERMITS FOR HOUSING THAT IS
TARGETED FOR ABOVE A CERTAIN INCOME LEVEL. JUST SAY, WE’RE NOT GOING TO
BUILD HOUSES FOR PEOPLE TOP 1 OR 2%. NOT GOING TO BUILD THAT STUFF
FOR A WHILE. WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT KIND OF
DRAMATIC IDEA? HOW DOES A DRAMATIC IDEA TEND
TO FLY?>>THAT ISN’T GOING TO HAPPEN.>>Daryl: A DRAMATIC IDEA. ANY DRAMATIC IDEA.>>SINGAPOREAN MODEL. SHE SAID SHE DOES NOT AGREE
WITH.>>Daryl: IS THERE A BIG IDEA?>>3% OF OUR POPULATION, ALL
OF OUR POPULATION LIVES ON 3% OF THE LAND. SO. DEVELOPERS IF YOU WANT
TO GET MORE HOUSING, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND OTHER
HOUSING, YOU’VE GOT TO RELEASE SOME OF THE LAND.>>Steve: DO YOU AGREE?>>ZONING, I CAN SPEAK FOR
MAUI COUNTY. ZONING IS USED AS A TOOL TO
STOP DEVELOPMENT. SO IT’S BEEN VERY EFFECTIVE. WHICH MEANS I KNOW FAMILIES
OLD FAMILIES LIVE UPCOUNTRY, TRYING TO, I HAVE 7 KIDS AND
ENOUGH LAND TO GIVE IT TO THEM. CAN I CAN’T GET SUBDIVISION
DONE. COUNTY SAYS I HAVE TO DO YOU
WILL AFTER THESE THINGS. PUT IN INFRASTRUCTURE. I WANT TO GET MY KIDS LAND SO
THEY CAN FIGURE OUT HOUSING. COUNTY SAYS YOU CAN’T GET A
PERMIT.>>Daryl: FIVE YEARS, TEN
YEARS LATER.>>THERE’S A REASON WHY
THERE’S MOMENTS ON OAHU. TRY TO CONTROL THAT. THERE’S A REASON WE’RE TRYING
TO CRACK DOWN ON AIRB&BS. WE LIVE ON AN ISLAND STATE,
ONLY SO MUCH LAND. WE COULD LIVE LIKE HONG KONG
IF WE WANTED TO.>>Daryl: YOU END UP WITH A
SITUATION, THERE I WOULD IMAGINE, A LOT OF THOSE MIGHT
BE AG LOTS OR SUBDIVISIONS X AMOUNT OF FLOOR SPACE PER
AREA.>>WHAT I’M SAYING YOU GOT TO
ALLOW FOR, MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE. THERE’S A LOT OF PEOPLE WOULD
BE SATISFIED LIVING OLDER STYLE, CONSTRUCTION OF A
HOME, OLD, OLD STYLE. SOUTH PACIFIC, OPEN DESIGNS
THAT ARE VERY CHEAP TO PUT TOGETHER. CODE SAYS YOU CAN’T DO THIS. IF PEOPLE WANT TO BUILD A
CERTAIN TYPE OF STRUCTURE, THEY WANT TO LIVE IN THEIR
HAPPY WITH THAT, IT MEETS BASIC HEALTH REQUIREMENTS, I
THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW IT.>>PEOPLE WOULD MOVE INTO
TRAILERS BUT WE WOULD NEVER ALLOW THAT. TINY HOMES, PRACTICAL, EVEN
JOSH’S BLOW-UP TENTS FOR THE OHANA ZONES.>>Daryl: BY THE WAY, IT’S
CALLED HONU HOMELESS OUTREACH AND NAVIGATION FOR UNSHELTERS
PERSONNED.>>WHAT IS THE HAWAIIAN
TRANSLATION?>>TURTLE.>>Daryl: NUMBER OF QUESTIONS
ABOUT CRIME PUNISHMENT. CRIME IS SPIKING. HEAR ABOUT ELDERLY RESIDENT
BEING ATTACKED. WHAT IS BEING DONE TO KEEP US
SAFE? HOW BIG AN ISSUE THAT?>>TOWN HALL MEETING CRIME AND
SAFETY. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU GUYS
DOING? POLICE, NINE POLICEMEN, GIVE
HPD — HATS OFF TO HPD, CAME, HERE’S THE STATE OF THE ORDER
IN HAWAIʻI KAI. STATE OF THE ORDER ON OAHU. WE ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY
OTHER PLACE. A LOT OF THEFT GOING ON. A LOT OF WHAT IS OTHERWISE A
REVOLVING DOOR THEY MENTIONED AND HALF THE CRIMES PEOPLE WHO
LEFT KEYS IN THEIR CAR, LEFT DOORS OPEN, LIKE THE OLD
HAWAIʻI USED TO BE CAN’T TRUST PEOPLE NOW. AS IT WAS BEFORE. AND ESSENCE WAS WE DON’T FEEL
SAFE. THAT’S ONE OF THE BASIC
OBLIGATIONS OF OUR SOCIETY THROUGH OUR GOVERNMENT. 312 HPD OFFICERS ARE ACTUALLY
SHORT FOR WHAT THEY SHOULD BE IN TERMS OF THEIR PATROLS. WE NEED TO GIVE THEM MORE PAY. WE NEED TO GET MORE OF THEM. AND ALL RESPECT TO THE SENATE
AND SOME OF THE OTHER GET OUT OF JAIL FREE PEOPLE IN THE
HOUSE, WE’RE MAKING, WANT TO GET RID OF BAIL. GET RID OF SENTENCES. KEEP PEOPLE ON THE STREET. THESE ARE THE GUYS THAT HAVE
VERY PROFESSIONAL. GET AWAY CARS. GUYS DO THE RECONNAISSANCE. STEAL. THEY’RE GONE. NOT GETTING CAUGHT THE WAY
THEY USED TO BE.>>Daryl: IT DOES BRING UP,
THAT’S A FAIR BRING UP THAT ISSUE. MIGHT BE ARGUING ABOUT THIS
YEAR.>>BAIL REFORM.>>Daryl: BAIL REFORM. PROPOSAL.>>BAIL HAS TO COME ECONOMIC
ISSUES. IF YOU CAN AFFORD IT, YOU GET
OUT. THE REFORM IS NATIONAL
MOVEMENT. IDEA, BAIL SHOULD BE BASED ON
THE SITUATION. ISN’T JUST MONETARY
CONSIDERATION. SHOW UP FOR THE TRIAL. WILL YOU BE THERE? ARE YOU SAFE? IF IT’S A VIOLENT CRIME, NO
BAIL. SIMPLE. BUT.>>RACIAL DISPARITY ISSUE
TOO. AFFECTS RACIAL MINORITIES,
DISPROPORTIONATE RATE. GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH THE
STREET DOING ALL OF THESE CRIMES?>>WHY IS THE CRIME PICKING
UP?>>DON’T PUT THAT IN YOUR
MOUTH. QUESTION WAS WHY IS CRIME
TICKING IN ALL OF OAHU? WHY IS IT GOING UP?>>MY QUESTION IS WHAT DO WE
DO ABOUT IT? THAT’S WHAT WE’RE TALKING
ABOUT. I’M SORRY BUT THE STATE LARGER
THAN OAHU. I REPRESENT FOUR ISLANDS. IN THE STATE. THAT’S MOLOKAI, LANAI,
KAHOOLAWE AND MOST OF MAUI. OWN SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES
DIFFERENT. BIG ISLAND IS VERY, VERY
DIFFERENT. KAUAI AND NIIHAU, VERY, VERY
DIFFERENT. THERE IS WHAT WE DEAL WITH. WE HERE AT THE LEGISLATURE,
EVERYTHING IS BASED ON OAHU NUMBERS. OAHU STATISTICS. OAHU. NOT A CRIME WAVE ON THE
NEIGHBOR ISLANDS? I DIDN’T SAY THAT HE HAVE A
DIFFERENT SET OF CIRCUMSTANCES. NEVER REALLY CONSIDERED IN
THE MIX. YOU’RE SPOUTING OFF ALL OF
THESE NUMBERS ABOUT OAHU. THAT’S FINE. BUT IN OUR COUNTY, IT’S VERY
DIFFERENT.>>Daryl: ARE YOU SUGGESTING
THAT CONSTITUENCY IN THE ISLANDS ARE LESS WORRIED
ABOUT CRIME?>>SOME CONSTITUENTS STILL
RELIEVE THEIR DOORS OPEN. LEAVE CARS. STILL INTACT IN THAT WAY. OTHERS ARE VERY — THE
PROLIFERATION OF GUNS IN THE DISTRICT HAVE BEEN VERY, VERY
MAJOR ISSUE UPTICK IN CRIME. SO WE SEE GUNS IN THE REMOTE
AREAS OF MAUI NOW. GUNS WASN’T THERE 2, OR 3
YEARS AGO.>>I GOT TO TAKE A LITTLE BLAME
HERE. MEDIA IN FACT, DOES LATCH ON
TO THESE STORIES PUT THEM ON THE FRONT PAGE, LEAD THE NEWS. STATISTICS SHOW,
HISTORICALLY, HONOLULU FOR ITS SIZE IS PRETTY DARN SAFE
CITY. IN TERMS OF GUN DEATHS, REALLY
QUITE LOW. WE HAVE SOME VERY STRICT GUN
LAWS IN THE STATE. WHEN A HORRIFIC ACCIDENT OR
ATTACK HAPPENS, LIKE THE WOMAN AT ALA MOANA, OR AT
WAIKIKI, I CAN’T REMEMBER,.>>ALL OF THE ABOVE.>>ALL OF THE ABOVE. IT’S HORRIFYING BUT WE DO TEND
TO LATCH ON THAT BECAUSE IT’S UP THERE IN OUR FACE.>>Daryl: YOU DID SAY,
INVOLVED, HAVING A SPIKE RIGHT NOW. OF VIOLENT CRIME. WE DO SORT OF SET OF PRETTY
AGGRESSIVE CRIMINALS. AND SHE SAID, WE’RE
SHORT-HANDED. THOSE THINGS ARE TRUE. HAS TO BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT
LONGER VIEW. BY THE WAY, YES, YOU DO NEED
TO HAVE MORERRER BAIL REFORM. CAN’T KEEP CRAMMING INTO OCCC
OR MCCC, NO MORE SPACE. NOT JUST A MATTER BUILDING NEW
PRISON O MOVING OCCC TO HALAWA. DEAL WITH PEOPLE WORT I OF
RECIDIVISM AND HELP THEM AND REHABILITATE THEM AND ENTER
SOCIETY.>>Daryl: COURTESY TO OUR
VIEWERS. FROM OAHU, 462-5000. NEIGHBOR ISLANDS,
800-238-4847. EMAIL INSIGHTS ON PBS
HAWAII.ORG. WE TALKED LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE
INCOME INEQUALITY EARLIER. I THINK THIS TOPIC, IT PERHAPS
IS ONE OF THE REASONS WE’RE SEEING SPIKE IN CRIME. OR WHO KNOW? WHAT IS THE ROLE OF INCOME
EQUALITY IN OUR HOUSING SHORTAGES? SPECIFIC QUESTION. HOW DO YOU FIX INCOME
EQUALITY? MINIMUM WAGE? SPECIFICALLY, WHAT ARE THE
CHANCES LEGISLATURE RAISING MINIMUM WAGE?>>PROBABLY VERY HIGH. I SAID FOR MY CAUCUS, PEOPLE
MISINTERPRETED. I SAID IF IT’S A REASONABLE
INCREASE, WE’LL BACK IT. IT HASN’T BEEN RAISED FOR
QUITE SOME TIME. I THINK WE NEED A TRAINING
WAGE. THERE’S A LOT OF YOUNG PEOPLE
NOT GETTING TRAINING BECAUSE THE MINIMUM WAGE IS SO HIGH. WE NEED AI IS COMING. ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE. A LOT, WE PUSH IT TOO HIGH, THE
MACHINES ARE GOING TO COME AND TAKE OVER OR PEOPLE WILL CUT
BACK ON THOSE WHO OTHERWISE SHOULD BE HIRED. WE HAVE TO HAVE IT VERY
DELICATE BALANCE. DISAGREEMENT BETWEEN THE TIP
CREDIT, HEALTH INSURANCE, CREDIT. I THINK THERE’S PROBABLY
ENOUGH MOMENTUM, IF YOU WILL, PROBABLY WILL BE THIS TIME. WHAT THE LEVEL IS, IT’S NOT A,
QUOTE, 17, 25 OR BIG, YOU’RE GOING TO MAKE IT.>>SIMPLE DOLLAR AMOUNT. PACKAGE OF BENEFITS,
EQUALIZING WHAT IT IS. HOW DO YOU BALANCE, FOR
EXAMPLE, TIP CREDIT, DOLLAR AMOUNT FOR WAGES, BENEFITS,
EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTIONS, ALL OF THESE THINGS. HEALTH INSURANCE. THAT IS THE MIX. I THINK THAT IF WE JUST TAKE
ONE OF THESE STRANDS OUT, IT WON’T WORK. TAKE ALL OF THIS TOGETHER, HOW
CAN WE MIX IT UP, HOW WE CAN COME TOGETHER AND SAY, OKAY,
MAYBE WE HAVE TIP CREDIT, AND WE HAVE A TRAINING CREDIT, AND
WE HAVE THESE OTHER THINGS, THERE’S A WAY OF REIMBURSING
EMPLOYERS AT A CERTAIN POINT. ALL OF THESE THINGS HAVE TO BE
DISCUSSED. BUT IT’S A PACKAGE. HOW WE PUT TOGETHER.>>Daryl: HOW CLOSE ARE YOU TO
REALLY HAVING AN AGREEMENT AT THE END OF THE SESSION?>>THE LAST SESSION, IT WAS
ABOUT, I THINK IT CAME DOWN TO A DOLLAR AMOUNT. I THINK THIS SESSION, I THINK
THERE’S AT LEAST I KNOW OF A NUMBER OF SENATORS WORKING ON
THE PACKAGE. AND TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW
TO PUT THIS TOGETHER. I’M NOT SURE IF THE HOUSE HAS
BEEN TALKING TO EACH OTHER. I DO KNOW THAT THE SENATE HAS. SENATORS WORKING ON IT, LOOK
AT IT AS A PACKAGE.>>ONE OF THE THINGS TAKEN
ATTENTION AWAY FAMILY LEAVE ISSUE. MINIMUM WAGE FAMILY LEAVE IS
OBVIOUSLY A VERY IMPORTANT ONE. NUMBERS AREN’T PROBABLY IN
YET FOR ALL OF THEM. I THINK THAT IS THE
DISCUSSION. IT’S GOING ON NOW. I’M SURE THE VIEWER WHO ASKED
THAT QUESTION WILL BE FULLY APPRISED OF PROBABLY IN THE
NEXT SIX WEEKS. SOMETHING IS GOING TO POP UP.>>YOU’RE GETTING MORE
FUNDAMENTAL PROBLEM, HOW TO SOLVE INCOME INEQUALITY. YOU HAVE A PLACE, CURRENT RATE
FOR A HOME ON OAHU? 700? 790,000. $820. TALKED TO THE REALTOR. THAT’S HAWAIʻI KAI.>>NO. ALL OF HAWAIʻI. INCLUDING MAUI, SIR.>>NO QUESTION. I THINK WHEN IT’S FEDERAL
LEVEL, YOU’RE GIVING OUT A TAX CUT, TRUMP ADMINISTRATION AND
REPUBLICAN CONTROL CONGRESS DID, BENEFIT PRIMARY THE
WEALTHIEST 1% AROUND CORPORATIONS. THAT IS GOING TO MOVE TOWARDS
INCOME EQUALITY IN THIS COUNTRY.>>Daryl: ONE OF THE THINGS
THAT HAPPENED RECENTLY WAS DEFENSE AUTHORIZATION BILL,
OUT OF CONGRESS, APPROVED I THINK IT’S 12 WEEKS PAID
FAMILY LEAVE, ACTUALLY, MARITAL LEAVE. FOR HAVING A CHILD. THAT’S A MAJOR BENEFIT THAT
EVERY FEDERAL WORKER IN HAWAIʻI WILL HAVE. DOES THAT PUT PRESSURE ON
LEGISLATURE TO LIKE DO THAT? HAVE TO WORK THE NUMBERS OUT.
12 WEEKS OF PAID FAMILY LEAVE FOR A NEW CHILD IS 3.3 BILLION
OVER THE NEXT FIVE YEARS. IT’S GOING TO COST A LITTLE
BIT OF MONEY. SO THE STATE HAS GOT TO WEIGH
THAT VIS-A-VIS WHAT THE FEDS SAID WAS A MODEL.>>ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE
FEDERAL BILL THAT BRIAN SCHATZ WAS INVOLVED IN?>>Daryl: YES. SANDY MA FROM COMMON CAUSE. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT HAPPENS
ALL THE TIME WITH THE MINIMUM WAGE, CLASSIC CASE SO MANY
MOVING PARTS TO THE BILL, LAST MINUTE, SOMEONE WILL COME IN
AND THROW A BOWLING BALL AT THE MIX. GOES KABOOM. DO YOU THINK THERE’S PROCESS
PROBLEM IT IS HE LEGISLATURE WITH THAT WHERE AT THE END,
THEY’RE JUST NEGOTIATING AMONG THEMSELVES, DON’T KNOW
WHO’S IN THEIR EARS, WHO IS INFLUENCING THEM?>>DEFINITELY. WHEN IT GETS TO CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE. PITCH BLACK. WE DON’T KNOW WHAT’S GOING ON. IT’S NOT PUBLIC. IT’S NOT OPEN. THE PUBLIC CAN’T SEE WHAT IS
BEING DISCUSSED. SO YES. THERE ARE PROCESS
TRANSPARENCY ISSUES AT THE LEGISLATURE.>>GUT AND REPLACE?>>I DIDN’T SEE THAT.>>SOUNDED LIKE GUT AND
REPLACE TO ME.>>GO BACK TO THE GERMANE,
WHAT BEV’S BEEN TALKING ABOUT. SAYING, MORE THAN THAT. GET DOES THAT PROCESS
QUESTION YOU’RE ASKING. WHY DIDN’T THEY WORK OUT THOSE
ISSUES BEFOREHAND? WHY COULDN’T THEY AGREE ON
SOMETHING, PASSED A BILL SO DIDN’T HAVE GO TO CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE. I’M HOPING THIS TIME AROUND,
THEY WILL FIX THAT.>>WELL, TO GET BACK TO GUT AND
REPLACE. TOO SUBTLE.>>YEAH. I KNEW I DIDN’T HAVE TO BE
SUBTLE. COMMON CAUSE HAWAIʻI AND
LEAGUE OF WOMEN VOTERS OF HONOLULU DID FILE LITIGATION
AGAINST GUT AND REPLACE ONE PARTICULAR BILL, I BELIEVE IS
2018.>>KIND OF OBSCURE BILL.>>YES.>>I DON’T EVEN REMEMBER WHAT
IT WAS ABOUT.>>THAT’S NOT IMPORTANT. ONE PARTICULAR BILL IN 2018,
WE LOST TRIAL COURT LEVEL. WE APPEALED AND THAT APPEAL,
WE APPEALED TO THE INTERMEDIATE COURT OF
APPEALS. WE ASKED THE HAWAIʻI SUPREME
COURT TO TAKE IT UP AND THE HAWAIʻI SUPREME COURT HAS
AGREED TO TAKE IT UP. WE ARE WAITING TO SEE IF, OUR
ARGUMENTS WILL BE SCHEDULED.>>Daryl: LET ME DESCRIBE WHAT
GUT AND REPLACE.>>MANY OF THEM KNOW. BASICALLY, SOME DIFFERENCES
IN DEFINITION OF WHAT GUT AND REPLACE MEANS. TRADITIONALLY, BILL COULD GO
ALL THE WAY TO THE LEGISLATURE OR AT THE VERY END, CONFERENCE
COMMITTEE, AS LONG AS THE TITLE OF THE BILL IS SOME
SIMILARITY. THE LEGISLATORS CAN THROW OUT
ALL THE CONTENT OF THAT BILL AND PUT IT IN A WHOLE ANOTHER
BILL THAT MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE GOTTEN HEARINGS IN THE PAST. ONE GOOD EXAMPLE OF THAT, LAST
YEAR, I THINK YOU WERE KIND OF INVOLVED WITH THIS ONE. WHERE THE DECISION, DECIDED
TO REDUCE THE SIZE OF THE BOARD OF REGENTS. BASICALLY, MAKE IT 50-50. NEIGHBOR ISLANDS ON OAHU. THAT WAS A BILL THAT HAD BEEN
REJECTED ALTHOUGH IT DID HAVE HEARINGS. AND THEN GUTTED AND REPLACED
WITH THAT. ALL OF A SUDDEN, YOU HAD THAT
BILL. GOVERNOR APPROVED IT. THAT KIND OF A TACTIC, DO YOU
SEE LEGISLATORS ADDRESSING THAT AS A REFORM ISSUE?>>WE HAVE IN THE RULES. THE RULES BASICALLY SAY
THAT’S CONTENT HAS TO BE SOMEWHERE IN THE DISCUSSION
OF THE BILL. SO YOU KNOW, THAT’S THE
CONFERENCE COMMITTEE RULES. IF IT WAS BROUGHT UP, AT ONE
OF THE CONFERENCE HEARINGS, SOMEBODY PUT IT ON THE RECORD,
WHAT ABOUT THIS, THEN OKAY, WE TRY TO ENFORCE THAT. BUT YOU KNOW, LET’S GO BACK TO
THE CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION. CONSTITUTIONAL CONVENTION
CREATED THIS HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ON THIS
PARTICULAR PRACTICE. IDEA THAT A BILL IS
INTRODUCED, CONSTITUTION SAYS, ONLY ONE SUBJECT PER
BILL, AND THE TITLE HAS TO MATCH THE BILL. THAT’S THE GENESIS OF IT,
RIGHT? TITLE HAS TO MATCH THE BILL. RELATING TO TAXATION. WHEN I GOT IN —
>>PRETTY DARN BROAD. I DID A BILL TO INCREASE THE
EARNED INCOME TAX CREDIT. TAKEN AND USED TO RAISE TAXES. BECAUSE TITLES SAID RELATING
TO TAXES. VETERANS LAWMAKERS KNOW IF
YOU WANT TO CONTROL A BILL, LIMIT TITLE. NEWER MEMBERS COME IN AND DO
BROAD TITLES. BILLS GET USED FOR ALL SORTS
OF STUFF. AT THE END OF THE DAY, THE
FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION HAD LONG DISCUSSIONS ON THIS. I WENT BACK AND READ THE
MINUTES ON THIS, WHY IT WAS THERE. IDEA THAT IT’S THERE IS THAT
A BILL, YOU HAVE HEARINGS, AND A BILL SHOULD EVOLVE. YOU NEED A MECHANISM TO CHANGE
THE BILL. THAT WAS THE CONSTITUTIONAL
THINKING OF WHY THEY PUT THAT IN THERE. I’VE WRITTEN PRIMARILY
AGAINST THE PRACTICE. HOUSE AN SENATE ALSO HAVE
THEIR OWN RULES. PROBLEM IS THAT THE
CONSTITUTION REQUIRES THREE HEARINGS. THAT’S THE RUB THERE. ARGUMENT FOR HAVING A GUT AND
REPLACE IS WHAT YOU IF YOU NEED TO DO SOMETHING IN THE
MIDDLE OF SESSION? ONE EXAMPLE, ALL OF THAT
FLOODING, TURTLE BAY, FLOODING ON KAUAI,
125 MILLION. GET MONEY TO HELP THEM, OAHU
AS WELL. WHAT ELSE COULD YOU DO? YOU HAD TO TALK A VEHICLE. PROBLEM, WHAT IF YOU SO CHANGE
A CONTENT OF A BILL, OBJECTIONABLE ISSUE. CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE. NO ONE IS GOING TO COMPLAIN
ABOUT RELIEF FOR FLOODING. BUT THEY ARE GOING TO COMPLAIN
ABOUT CHANGE BOARD OF REGENTS. AS JEFF PORTNOY IS DOING. IN THAT CASE, PUBLIC HAS BEEN
LEFT OUT OF. HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO TESTIFY.>>YOU GUYS HAVE BEEN BOLD,
OUT FRONT. IF WE DON’T STOP IT, WHERE,
YOU CAN’T HAVE INSERT INTO THE CAVEAT WHERE IF IT’S
EMERGENCY, GUT AND REPLACE IS FINE. VOLCANO ON THE BIG ISLAND, ET
CETERA, ET CETERA. OTHER FLOODING, ET CETERA.>>WE HAVE COUNCIL
REPRESENTING US ON GUT AND REPLACE. I DON’T FEEL LIKE IT’S
APPROPRIATE TO TALK ABOUT IT ISSUE THAT IS PENDING
LITIGATION.>>YOU BROUGHT IT UP.>>I’M GOING TO DEFER THAT
DARREL BROUGHT IT UP.>>WAIT A MINUTE. OKAY. HE BROUGHT IT UP. JUST EXPLAINING PROCEDURALLY
WHERE IT’S AT. LITIGATION PROCESS.>>Daryl: AWKWARD DAY ONE. SANDY IS THE ONLY ATTORNEY
AMONG US.>>I’M NOT GOING TO ARGUE
MERITS OF THE CASE.>>Daryl: WE HAVE ABOUT TEN OR
11 MINUTES LEFT. 15 MINUTES AT THE MOST. QUITE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT I
WANT TO GET THROUGH THEM.>>FULLY VAPING QUESTIONS? SPEED ROUND.>>Daryl: ACTUALLY, VAPING
ISSUE DID COME UP. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT HAS
ONLY TAKEN WHAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED BABY STEPS. HOW IMPORTANT IS THAT?>>RIGHT NOW, JUST YESTERDAY
AND TODAY, BILLS ARE CIRCULATING. I’VE SEEN A NUMBER OF BILLS
BANNING VAPING. OTHER BILLS SAY WE GO SHOULD
CONTROL, SO IT’S BEING INTRODUCED. TOPIC, SOMETHING THAT I THINK
WE’RE GOING TO TAKE UP.>>OUR REPORTER INTERVIEWED
SENATOR BAKER, HEALTH COMMITTEE AMONG OTHER THINGS. IT’S NOT JUST END VAPING PER
SE. BUT PERHAPS BAN VAPING
PRODUCTS. TO BAN FLAVORED PRODUCTS. AND IMPETUS BEHIND THIS,
ABSOLUTELY RIGHT, FEDS DID BABY STEP.>>WE’RE LOOKING AT CRISIS
AMONG THE YOUTH OF HAWAIʻI. DEMONSTRATING ABOUT
STATISTICS. THAT WILL BE A VERY POSITIVE
ISSUE THAT A LOT PEOPLE CAN GET BEHIND.>>REFORMED SMOKER I THOUGHT
VAPING WHAT GREAT WAY TO GET PEOPLE OFF.
FDA SAYS VAPE SOMETHING NOT A SMOKING CESSATION DEVICE. I THOUGHT, WHAT IS IT IN WELL,
WAIT. MAKING KIDS HOOKED ON
NICOTINE. I CAN’T SEE ANY VALUE UNLESS
FOR THOSE WHO ARE OLDER, ACTUALLY, THERE’S A FEW
PEOPLE, THEY DON’T HAVE THE NUMBERS, WHO HAVE USED IT TO
GET OFF ACTUAL TOBACCO. AND GET OUT OF CANCEROUS
POISONOUS PART OF THE SMOKING. BUT PEOPLE ARE DYING FROM
VAPING. ESPECIALLY THC. THC AND VAPING MEDICAL KILL
COMBINATION.>>SHORT ANSWER, YES, DEALING
WITH AT THE LEGISLATURE.>>COMMON CAUSE HAWAIʻI,
RECEIVED A QUESTION FROM THE HONOLULU CITY COUNCIL STATE
USURPED COUNSEL JURISDICTION TO ALSO REGULATE VAPING. THEY COULD HAVE TAKEN STEPS
EARLIER TO ADDRESS THE VAPING EPIDEMIC.>>BECAUSE THEY DIDN’T AND THE
STATE DID?>>Daryl: I THINK WHAT THEY’RE
SAYING IS THE STATE LAW PREEMPTS COUNTIES. FRUSTRATION WAS THAT THE
STATE GAVE US, SAID THAT THE COUNTIES CAN’T DO IT, BUT THEY
DIDN’T DO IT EITHER.>>RIGHT.>>Daryl: DO YOU SEE
LEGISLATURE, BEING FROM NOT HONOLULU COUNTY, DO YOU SEE
THE LEGISLATURE SAYING, OKAY, IF HE WITH CAN’T COME TO GRIPS
WITH THIS ISSUE, WE’LL LET THE COUNTIES DO IT.>>OR LETTING THE COUNTY TAKE
STRONGER STEPS.>>I DON’T KNOW. THAT’S A FAIR ANSWER. I REALLY DON’T KNOW. I MEAN, I COME FROM THE COUNTY
LEVEL AND I REALLY HAVE ADVOCATED OVER THE YEARS FOR
MORE HOME RULE. ALWAYS SAY SAID, LET THE
COUNTIES DECIDE THING. CELL PHONE BAN IN HAWAIʻI. IT WAS ALL FOUR COUNTIES THAT
DID IT BEFORE WE COULD GET IT THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE. ONLY REASON THE LEGISLATURE
PASSED IT IS FEDERAL GOVERNMENT SAID, NOT
REQUESTING TO GET SOME MONEY UNLESS YOU PASS IT. THERE WAS ONE STATEWIDE,
EVERY COUNTY PASSED IT.>>Daryl: VIEWER ASKED THE
QUESTION, BACK AGAIN TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ISSUE. NEARLY A QUARTER OF HOMES IN
HAWAIʻI ARE PURCHASED BY OUT OF STATE BUYERS. I THINK THERE WAS JUST A
BRIEFING BY THE STATE ECONOMIST WHERE HE SAID, IT’S
STILL 30% IN SOME PLACES. VERY HIGH.>>40% IN MAUI.>>24% AVERAGE ACROSS THE
STATE. THERE ARE PLACES LIKE
VANCOUVER, NOT DICTATORIAL COUNTRY, PUT LIKE 30, 40% TAX
ON OUT OF STATE BUYERS.>>WE HAVE A FEDERAL
CONSTITUTION. THINGS LIKE INTERSTATE
COMMERCE AND ET CETERA, THAT REALLY MAKES IT DIFFICULT. ONE OF THE TENET OF THE UNION,
UNITED STATES, IS THAT YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO BUY PROPERTY
AND YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MOVE ANYWHERE WITHIN THIS UNION.>>WHAT ABOUT JUST FOREIGN
BUYERS? CAN DO IT WITH JUST FOREIGN
BUYERS?>>NO. FORM A LOCAL COMPANY AND BUY
IT?>>NO. SAME THING. ALWAYS ALLOWED FOREIGNERS TO
BUY LAND.>>Daryl: NOW, CANNABIS. RECENTLY STOPPED TESTING FOR
CANNABIS. LEGISLATURE PASSED PROTECT
FOR WORKERS WHO CONSUME MEDICAL CANNABIS CURRENT
STATE LAW. RECOMMENDED YEARS AGO. WHAT DO YOU SEE ON CANNABIS.>>TRYING TO LEGALIZE IT AND
BE DONE WITH IT. LET THE MARKETS DECIDE.>>RECREATIONALLY.>>YES. ALWAYS HAD THAT ON MY AGENDA. ALWAYS PUT THAT OUT. HERE’S THE THING, IT’S LIKE
ALCOHOL. YOU DON’T HAVE AN AIRLINE
PILOT OR CRANE OPERATE THAT ARE CAN GO TO WORK DRUNK. REGULATIONS INDUSTRY,
CERTAIN TYPE OF JOBS, CERTAIN THINGS, CAN’T CONSUME. HIGHLY REGULATED. NOT JUST A FREE FOR ALL AND
ALLOW PEOPLE THAT NEED IT FOR MEDICAL USE TO HAVE THAT. IF THEY ARE DOING IT
RECREATIONALLY, LIMITS.>>SPEAKING OF BABY STEPS.>>ON SATURDAY, THE
DECRIMINALIZATION BILL GOES INTO EFFECT. YOU CAN HAVE THREE GRAMS OR
LESS. I THINK IS ABOUT THAT MUCH. BASED ON WHAT I SEE ON THE
MOVIES AND TV. IT WOULD BE A FINE. $130. WOULD ALSO BE REPORTS BACK TO
THE LEGISLATURE HOW TO APPROVE IT. LEGISLATURE IN ITS BILL
RECOGNIZED THE NATION IS GOING. MOVING TOWARDS RECREATIONAL
MARIJUANA. YOU ONCE SAID, ONCE, THAT
HAWAIʻI TENDS TO BE AHEAD OF THE CURVE ON A LOT OF THINGS. THEN WE FALL AWAY BEHIND. SAME SEX MARRIAGE, MEDICAL
MARILYN. DEATH WITH DIGNITY. UNTIL WE EVENTUALLY COME
AHEAD. AGREE WITH THE SENATOR,
INEVITABLE AND TAX REVENUE HELP GENERAL FUND.>>IF YOU LOOK AT THE DATA,
MALWARE TO COMPUTER IS WHAT RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA IS
GOING TO BE TO THE BRAINS OF OUR YOUTH. WE HAVE ENOUGH LETHARGY IN OUR
ECONOMY. IN OUR YOUTH. IN OUR BRAIN POWER AS A
COUNTRY. IF YOU WANT TO PUT EVERYBODY
INTO A SLEEP AND A LULL, LET’S DO RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA. LOOK AT WHAT COLORADO DID. WHAT IS THE DRUG FATALITIES
ARE WITH THE STREET AND ACTIONS.>>THEY’RE SMOKING IT AWAY,
WHICH IS FINE. MEDICAL MARIJUANA. EVERYBODY WHO CAN DO
3-OUNCES. BUT TO HAVE YOUR NATION
COMMITTED TO RECREATIONAL MARIJUANA.>>YOU GUYS FEAR MALWARE
AND SPYWARE. TELL YOU, IF YOU WANT TO FRY
BRAINS OF YOUR YOUTH, KEEP GOING IN THAT DIRECTION. SYMPATHETIC TO THE ARGUMENT
MARIJUANA CAN IN MANY WAYS. PEOPLE DIE FROM MARIJUANA
THAN FROM ALCOHOL.>>METH CAPITOL OF AMERICA. RIGHT HERE.>>METH IS ANOTHER DRUG.>>SPEAKING OF ANOTHER DRUG. IT’S ANOTHER GET WAY VERSION
OF IT.>>Daryl: WILL THE LEGISLATURE
ADDRESS THE FUND SUSTAINABILITY AND CLIMATE
ADOPTION THIS SESSION? YOU MENTIONED EARLIER. ABOUT THE ROADS.>>I THINK WHAT THIS CALLER IS
ASKING ABOUT IS REPORT OF THE CLIMATE CHANGE ADAPTATION
COMMISSION. WHICH ACTUALLY, BEST THING
THAT — 315 PAGE REPORT. READ THEIR EXECUTIVE SUMMARY. TALK ABOUT SOME VERY
DIFFICULT THINGS. NUMBER ONE, PLAN RETREAT. THAT IS WHAT WE’RE GOING TO
HAVE TO ADDRESS. WE DID ALL THE LOW HANGING
FRUIT. EASY STUFF. ASPIRATIONAL. ENERGY REDUCTION BY A CERTAIN
DATE. DO THESE OTHER THINGS. REAL
HARD PART COMES. WE NEED TO MOVE THAT POWER
PLANT OFF THE COAST. SOMEWHERE INLAND. WE NEED TO MOVE THAT
WASTEWATER TREATMENT SYSTEM. INLAND. AND HOW DO WE DO IT AND HOW DO
WE DO IT QUICK.>>HERE’S THE THING. IT’S NOT A FUTURE EVENT. IT’S A CURRENT EVENT. WE OFTEN TALK ABOUT CLIMATE
CHANGE. IN THE FUTURE TENSE. IT’S COMING. IT WILL HAPPEN. WE’RE IN THE MIDDLE OF IT. WE HAVE CRISIS OF HOW DO WE
MOVE. TO BUILD A NEW POWER PLANT,
MAUI, TELL ME, 40 YEARS OF PERMITS. ALL THE FEDERAL PERMITS,
LOCAL PERMITS, ALL THE STATE PERMITS, EVERYTHING. IF WE’RE GOING TO MOVE THE
POWER PLANT, GOT TO FIND A WHICH TO DO IT QUICKLY.>>I AGREE WITH YOU ON THIS. THAT MITIGATION AND
ADAPTATION REPORT, NOT A LOT OF THINGS WERE ADOPTED BY THE
LEGISLATURE. WHAT HAPPENED — I INTRODUCED
A COUPLE BILLS TO ADOPT ALL OF THEM. DIDN’T HAPPEN LAST SESSION. YOU ASKED OFFICE OF PLANNING
TO PLAN AHEAD FOR HAWAIʻI. 2050. SEEMS LIKE THE LEGISLATURE
DID DROP THE BALL ON THAT ONE. I KNOW THAT CLIMATE CHANGE IS
VERY MUCH FOREFRONT OF YOUR PRIORITIES.>>YOU’RE RIGHT. SO THIS IS THE CHANGE I’VE
SEEN WITH AT LEAST THE SENATORS. SPEAK FOR THE SENATORS
BECAUSE WE HAVE OUR RETREATS, GET TOGETHER. HOW WE’RE GOING TO MOVE AHEAD. MARK CHANGE THAT SENATORS IS
LIKE, OKAY, WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. IT’S THE ECONOMY, STUPID. TALKING ABOUT WHAT’S
IMPORTANT IN HAWAIʻI. CLIMATE CHANGE IS IMPORTANT. BUT GETTING PEOPLE TO BE ABLE
TO LIVE HERE, TO HAVE A HOUSE, SENSE OF WELL-BEING, GET
EDUCATED, AND NOT SHIFTING THEM OFF TO THE MAINLAND, I
THINK THAT IS SHOULD BE THE FOCUS.>>Daryl: CLIMATE CHANGE, ARE
YOU SAYING IT’S NOT SOMETHING WE NEED TO DEAL WITH?>>I’M SAYING IT’S THERE BUT
IT’S NOT THE MAJOR PRIORITY. MAY BE PRIORITY FROM THE
SENATE. WE’VE GOT TO GET 30% THAT ARE
NOT PART OF THE WHOLE SENSE OF HAWAIIAN ECONOMY. 70% ARE MAKING IT HAWAIʻI. 30% ARE NOT. I MENTIONED WHAT’S GOING ON
IN THE HAWAIIAN COMMUNITY. COMING LEAVING, KIDS GETTING
EXPORTED TO THE MAINLAND.>>Daryl: TALKING ABOUT
PRIORITIZING THAT. BUT THERE’S ALSO ROAD FALLING
INTO THE OCEAN IN HAUULA. AND WEST MAUI IS FACING SAME
THING. WE’VE GOT COASTAL FLOODING.>>GOT TO DEAL WITH THOSE
THINGS. BUT YOU’VE GOT TO DEAL WITH
THE ECONOMY, WE HAVEN’T DEALT WITH FOR DECADES.>>Daryl: I WANT TO MAKE SURE
I UNDERSTAND. EARLIER YOU SAID WE SHOULD
INVEST IN A SPACEPORT. INVEST IN.>>STRATEGIC ADVANTAGE.>>Daryl: ALL OF THESE THINGS. THOSE ARE INVESTMENTS TOO. THAT’S MONEY. TAX BREAKS.>>IT’S PRIVATE TECH
PRIMARILY.>>Daryl: HOW DO YOU GET THEM
DO THAT? FILM TAX CREDIT.>>
>>ONE OF THOSE. IN TERMS OF SPACEPORT, PEOPLE
WANTING TO COME HERE. HAVEN’T GOT THE PERMIT TO GET
THE SPACEPORT LICENSE. ALL BE MOOT IF THE AIRPORT IS
UNDER WATER.>>WE HAVE SO MANY PRIORITIES. MY FIRST SENSE IS THE
WELL-BEING OF THE PEOPLE OF HAWAIʻI. WITH THE HOMELESS, THOSE WHO
HAVE THREE TO FOUR JOBS TO MAKE IT AND THOSE WHO ARE
PROBABLY WITHOUT THE EDUCATION THAT THEY NEED TO
MAKE IT IN HAWAIʻI WITHOUT EXPORTING THEIR KIDS.>>Daryl: BACK TO SANDY MA
COMMON CAUSE SWEET SPOT. SEVERAL QUESTIONS ABOUT VOTER
REGISTRATION. IDEA OF AUTOMATIC VOTER
REGISTRATION. AS SOON AS THEY, YOU KNOW,
PLEAD SOME CONTACT WITH SOME GOVERNMENT AGENCY.>>DRIVER’S LICENSE.>>Daryl: DRIVER’S LICENSES. ANOTHER ONE, WHEN WE HAVE ALL
MAIL VOTING OPEN BALLOTS AT THE SAME TIME AS WEST COAST
NATIONAL ELECTIONS? COUNTY.>>A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES
THERE.>>Daryl: WHAT DO YOU THINK IS
THE NUMBER ONE THING YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE IN TERMS OF
GETTING MORE PEOPLE TO VOTE THIS YEAR?>>A LOT OF DIFFERENT ISSUES. SO FOR HOW TO GET PEOPLE TO
VOTE, THAT IS A LOADED QUESTION. NUMBER ONE THING TO GET PEOPLE
TO VOTE, YOU KNOW, THIS IS 2020. HUGE ELECTION YEAR. WE HAVE THE NATIONAL
ELECTIONS FOR OAHU, FIVE OF OUR CITY COUNCILMEMBERS ARE
UP, WE HAVE A MAYOR’S ELECTION, WE HAVE A
PROSECUTOR’S ELECTION, OUR ENTIRE HOUSE LEGISLATURE.>>Daryl: MAYBE PEOPLE GET
EXCITED.>>I’M HOPING, WE HAVE THE
MAUNA KEA. ISSUE. I MEAN, THERE ARE A LOT OF
ISSUES.>>LET ME ASK CHAD BLAIR. LET ME ASK THIS QUESTION. IT IS AN ELECTION YEAR. ELECTION YEAR FOR A LOT OF
PEOPLE IN THE CITY COUNCIL. MAYOR, 2/3 OF THE
LEGISLATURE. DO YOU THINK IN A YEAR LIKE
THIS, WE’RE GOING TO SEE A LOT OF ACCOMPLISHED IN THE
LEGISLATURE?>>WE ALL KNOW THAT USUALLY
DURING ELECTION YEAR, IT’S NOT THE TIME FOR THE BIG
IDEAS. ONE OF OUR REPORTS TALKED TO
A LAWMAKERS. ACTUALLY PRETTY QUIET. I THINK PEOPLE ARE JUST KIND
OF WAITING TO SEE. FACE IT. WHAT WE’RE DEALING WITH AT THE
NATIONAL LEVEL AND THE INTERNATIONAL LEVEL, WITH THE
TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, IMPEACHMENT, SITUATION IN
IRAN, IS REALLY DAMPENING DOWN.>>DEPRESSING.>>IT IS. ONE QUESTION. I’M NOT SAILING IT’S COMMON
CAUSE’S VIEW. QUICKLY, RANKED CHOICE
VOTING. I THINK WOULD BE A GOOD THING. PICK YOUR TOP TWO.>>Daryl: WE’RE ALL DONE. OVERTIME. MAHALO TO OUR VIEWERS FOR
JOINING US TONIGHT AND WE THANK OUR GUESTS –
SENATOR KALANI ENGLISH, STATE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER. CHAD BLAIR, POLITICS AND
OPINION EDITOR FOR HONOLULU CIVIL BEAT. REPRESENTATIVE GENE WARD,
STATE HOUSE MINORITY LEADER. AND SANDY MA, EXECUTIVE
DIRECTOR OF COMMON CAUSE HAWAIʻI. NEXT WEEK, INSIGHTS ASKS,
WHAT’S IT GOING TO TAKE TO SOLVE OUR AFFORDABLE HOUSING
CRISIS. PLEASE JOIN US. UNTIL THEN, I’M DARYL HUFF FOR
INSIGHTS ON PBS HAWAIʻI – ALOHA!

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